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Lib Dem plan to break up Treasury – snap verdict

The Liberal Democrats have announced a new idea; it’s a rehash of one that has been kicking around for at least 60 years.

As Daisy Cooper, the Lib Dem deputy leader, acknowledged in her speech this morning (see 9.37am), people in British politics have been complaining for years about the Treasury having too much power. One prime minister who actually did something about this was Harold Wilson, who created the Department of Economic Affairs in the 1960s as a counterweight to the Treasury. It was supposed to deal with long-term economic planning, leaving the Treasury as more of a simple tax-raising department. It did not last. But prime ministers – particulary those with difficult relationships with their chancellors – have been toying with the same idea ever since.

In an article about this four years ago, George Dibb, at the time a researcher at the IPPR thinktank, now on secondment to the civil service, said:

Ultimately, Harold Wilson, Gordon Brown and Theresa May are not all wrong. A short-termist Treasury with absolute control in Whitehall will always skew policy in a damaging way. Tony Danker, director general of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI), made a similar point this month on the role of the Treasury in economic growth: “No CEO would put the finance department in charge of sales.” The Treasury has to be broken up, with long-term economic strategy the responsibility of a new ministry. That way it would be matched by an equal and opposite force with long-term vision and powers to direct the economy towards socially important goals. Whether that goal is decarbonisation or addressing regional inequality, the Treasury’s instinct to pull tight the purse strings will always be a barrier.

Today, as well as adopting these arguments, Cooper was making an argument about growth, claiming that a stand-alone growth department would do better than the Treasury at boosting GDP. Perhaps. But Rachel Reeves claimed she was turning the Treasury into a growth department when she became chancellor. Since then growth has been disappointing, but in large part that is not because of Whitehall machinery; it’s because there are political objections to the pulling the most effective growth levers (joining the customs union or the single market, increasing immigration) that would apply regardless of which department was in charge.

Still, Cooper is likely to find a lot of people agreeing with her central argument. Those who have suggested breaking up the Treasury in the past have included figures as diverse as Will Hutton, Maurice Glasman and Dominic Cummings. If a left-leaning coalition is in power after the next election, the Lib Dems could have considerable clout when this debate is being thrashed out again.

Still, dismantling the Treasuy won’t be easy. In a good New Stateman article on this topic last year, George Eaton quoted Harold Macmillan, the former Tory PM. Macmillan summed it up like this:

To reform the Treasury is like trying to reform the Kremlin or the Vatican. These institutions are apt to have the last laugh.

Key events

Georgia Gould says she was ‘shocked’ by latest revelations about family friend Peter Mandelson

In her interviews this morning Georgia Gould, the education minister, was also asked about Peter Mandelson. Her father was Philip Gould, the pollster and strategist who worked for Labour when it was in opposition in the late 1980s and 1990s, and then when it was in government. He was a key figure in the development of New Labour, right at the heart of the Tony Blair inner circle and a close friend and ally of Mandelson.

This is what Gould told Sky News about her response to the latest revelations about the peer.

[Mandelson] was a good friend of my father’s. I’ve known him my whole life. I have been completely shocked by what has come out.

I know that my dad, who’s no longer alive, would have been too.

He is someone who I thought of as a public servant. And I could not believe when I read some of the things that have come out. When the whole government needed to be focussed at that time on the huge challenge that you face, to be passing information in that way, it is deeply painful to see what has emerged.

Gould was referring to emails showing Mandleson leaking confidential government documents to Jeffrey Epstein. These are now being investigated by the police.

Georgia Gould Photograph: Anna Gordon/The Guardian

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